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Dear Division 42 Member

We are pleased to invite you to join the Division 42 email list which has been created to provide a forum for collegial discussion among division members. Participation in the list is a membership benefit, thus there is no cost to you to belong.

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We hope you will join us and look forward to getting to know you!

Sincerely,

Rona LoPresti
Internet Editor

Read what others have said about the listserve:

This issue (Winter IP - 2004), I devote my column to imploring readers to join our Division 42 email “listserve.” For those of you who participate, you know what I’m talking about. For those of you who don’t, you have no idea what you are missing. The listserve provides the community that independent practitioners need. Once you get hooked, you will wonder how you ever lived without daily or weekly contact from your online Division 42 friends.

Isolation is one of the drawbacks of independent practice. You sit in your office, seeing patients, often with no regular communication with colleagues. Some of us are in group practices, so we have a chance to shoot the breeze with a friend, comment on the news, discuss a new scheme to make a buck or decry a new scheme to take our hard earned bucks from us. For those of us who lack easy access to that kind of community, the listserve provides it, electronically, daily, and, with wireless and remote email connections, anywhere on earth. Even if you have plenty of daily contact with colleagues, you will also treasure your listserve contacts. They include some of the best known, brightest and most creative independent practitioners in the U.S. and Canada.

For those who have never tried a listserve, here’s what it is: It is basically a piece of software that relays any email sent from a member to the email addresses of all other members of the list. You never see or install the software. You just use a particular email address for the listserve and your mail goes to all other members. For Division 42 list members, that address is div42@lists.apa.org. Send an email to that address, and it instantly goes via email to the several hundred members of Division 42 who subscribe. Once members look at their inboxes, they see that this particular email came from the Division 42 listserve and that you wrote it. The downside of belonging to a listserve is that you might get 50 emails on a given day. That is also the upside, as I’ll explain.

People on the list shoot the breeze about whatever they like. You will find not all topics are interesting to you, but you will find some that are. If you were in the mood to read about HIPAA when it was first implemented, you could find more than you ever wanted to learn about HIPAA on the listserve. If you are concerned about evidence based practice, you’ll find that on the list, along with periodic discussions of the best ways to treat borderlines, do custody evaluations, make martinis, shovel snow, collect money from patients, furnish an office, fight with a particular managed care company, or tell a joke. Discussions range from professional to political, with side trips into questions about computer viruses and computers. The wonderfully amazing thing is that someone on the list knows the answer to any question. Topics that involve opinion will generate all possible opinions. If knowledge is, indeed, power, the Division 42 listserve will make you stronger than The Hulk. And, if the subject line of an email is something that you find uninteresting, there is always the delete key. Also for those concerned about too many e-mails, there is a digest version of the list that allows you to receive a summary of all mailings and choose to read only the subject lines you find of interest. Join the list for more details on this feature.

People who are new to the list, tend to lurk. They feel like they just walked into a party where everyone knows everyone else. Lurking is the good way to see what is going on, who is who, and what the pattern of interaction is. A lurker receives all the listserve emails, but doesn’t reply or participate. The great thing about being a lurker, if that is what you feel comfortable doing, is no one knows you are there lurking. You can follow the conversation for weeks or months until you feel comfortable jumping in. It’s like being invisible at a cocktail party—no social anxiety because no one is pressuring you to talk. When new people feel ready to jump in, they tend to send an introductory letter to the list, saying who they are and what they do. After that, it’s a matter of seeing what topic is interesting enough to warrant a reply. Or, you can initiate a discussion of a new topic. Trust me, if you lurk for a few days, you’ll quickly pick up the lay of the land and feel comfortable. Soon, you’ll be checking for new emails between each patient and typing your replies quickly, as you rush off to see the next one.

The listserve has regulars who drop by almost daily, much like the general store in a small, New England town. Frank Froman offers his humorous and wise ramblings pretty much daily, and Ken Pope serves as the resident scholar, researcher, computer genius and humanitarian. Raise a difficult ethics question, and you might get input from Gerry Koocher. Ask something related to APA politics, and incoming APA President Ron Levant might reply, as well as all members of the Division 42 board.

When I travel on business, I still feel at home when I connect my laptop to an airport wireless “hotspot” and check out what my friends are saying. Indeed, I am so hooked that I have posted replies in flight via the dial up service that is available from some airlines. When you have a caring community like the Division 42 list, you want to participate. As our lives become more fragmented during this information age, we can develop new resources to help us recapture the sense of community found in a small town. For Division 42 members, our listserve is the place.

To join the listserve, send an email to LISTSERV@LISTS.APA.ORG. In the body of the email, put only: subscribe div42

I look forward to seeing new people on the list.

Marty Williams
IP Editor

Mary/colleagues,

Mary, this list is without a doubt the best place I've found online. It feels truly like the virtual Cheers Bar.

Friday night when I brought home my IP my wife was thumbing through it. Of course I wanted her to see MY contribution. She settled on Frank's column. Now my wife has a PhD in English and I mean, she can turn a phrase. I don't give her manuscripts any more because the red ink, well, let's just say I don't do psychotherapy with family members and I don't let them edit my writing.

She said, "This guy Frank can really write!" And she was laughing out loud every couple of lines.

And she hasn't had the chance to read any of Ray's movie reviews; seen your own advocacy posts; read any of Sandy's murder mysteries (but this summer undoubtedly, me too!); or Kathy's entreaties to pay attention to healing our health care system; or Ken's incredible mixture of KNOWLEDGE and compassion and humaneness to the degree I cannot even imagine how this exists in a single person (not to start online rumor or anything but my theory is he's really the first example of a fully functional, adaptive multiple); Marty's work on psychology's behalf to keep our ethics code sane, and production now of THE premier division publication.

Nor does it even begin to express my delight when I realized the "Holstein" who posted here was the same lead guy on the law suit that kicked MC's ass!; and that the guy I learned so much from about the concept of consumer-oriented professional guilds (not an oxymoron at all) was the same "Miller" who posted here; that author of the book that gave me the courage and also the practical road map to break free from managed care at the time I was stagnating in a salaried position but had no hope of getting out of because every where I looked the landscape was "managed" -- and here I am celebrating literally my 2 year anniversary in a completely MC-free practice, happier than I've ever been in my professional life -- was the same "Ackley" that posted here; not to mention the added wisdom from Kolt, Haber & Rodino, Kal Heller; the same Koocher who co-edited the desk reference I had to have and probably use at least once a week; Karman's perfect index for the financial value of our work (and was it he or Frank that got me started on Seti@home, which I've been obsessed with for two years to the extent that I had to literally go out and buy a computer with MORE POWER, if truth be told, just to run this damned program); Joe Bak who set me straight on my rant on what I thought were the fascist intepretations we were getting from our association attorneys and list-watchers when I first joined the list, about antitrust and its history and implications for our profession which I really knew nothing about but that didn't stop me from having an opinion anyway; to Ed Nottingham who I "re-met" here (he taught a seminar or two to my graduate program back before the turn of the century [1983 or so] and damn if I didn't think the name sounded familiar and if not for this listgroup I would probably never have been in contact with again but now he's coaxed me into collaborating on a book with him); to Rona who does continually superior work with the 'public face' of our web site and apparently has come to believe I have the web skills of the average 14 year old and so encouraged me to contribute; to the one person I really wish would be elected APA president, Stan Moldawsky, not just because of his connections with Wisconsin but because of his passion for our profession; to Sally Horwatt's report in the IP about her work after 911 that literally brought me to tears and I had to put away 10 minutes before my next appointment so it "wouldn't show;" to Larry Beer who doesn't know it yet but lives in the city in which I got married (any one else ever been to Kalamazoo?); to Mike Salamon who's Life Satisfaction in the Elderly Scale and book on helping families make decisions about nursing home placement have added so tremendously to my work; to Mike Cuttler who I really really wish I understood what he really does but I imagine he's doing so well at it he might not want to tell, exactly, and besides I'm not sure I'd understand; and so on and so on and so on, and I take full responsibility for the others who do not spring immediately to mind and who I have not acknowledged.

All these folks have had such a profound on my personal and professional life since I had the lucky opportunity to find this list.

You remember that study that said the internet is 'the great isolator?' If ever there were an argument for the futility of science providing meaningful answers, that was it. Two weekends ago I had the chance to meet some of these folks in reality, not virtually (despite hours in front of this video screen I still (believe I) an tell the difference -- including Mary -- as the newest member of the Interdivisional (29/39/42) Task Force on Health Care Policy. I'd never have gotten involved even at that level in the Association's activities -- I don't play well with others and usually abhor committee work (that's why I'm in INDEPENDENT practice, right?) -- nor would I have had a chance to meet any of these people -- if it hadn't started here.

So, I owe so much to this group. If I give some every now and then because I actually read the HIPAA regs last February (really adaptive during a Wisconsin February) or because I find bizarre comfort in CPTs and RVUs, I still get way more than I give.

Best,
Gordon I. Herz, PhD
Mental Health Associates
www.mentalhealth-madison.com
20 South Park, Suite 408
Madison, WI 53715
(608) 256-4848
(608) 256-4449 (fax)
WebSteward, Division 55
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Contributing Editor, 42 Online
Psychology Makes a Significant Difference

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